Do you approve of piracy?

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Do you appove of piracy?
Yes:	13 (61.9%)
No:	5 (23.8%)
Other:	3 (14.3%)
Total Votes: 21

Do you approve of piracy?; question
Topic Started: Jun 12 2009, 05:37 PM (834 Views)
Retrotune	Jun 12 2009, 05:37 PM Post #1
Member Posts: 120 Group: Member Member #32 Joined: Jun 10 2009	The question speaks for itself. A detailed explaination why/why perferb.



ChaoSXDemon	Jun 12 2009, 06:16 PM Post #2
Senior Member Posts: 187 Group: Member Member #33 Joined: Jun 10 2009	I would not say yes completely since supporting the developers are very important. However, for games that are bad, the developers do not deserved to be supported! Ironically no one will buy the game nor download it if its bad. So I say you can download the game and see if you like it, if you do, please buy the game to support the developers. The reason that there are so many console games is because PC games are heavily pirated. Even thought consoles and be mod and then pirate games on it, it is far more less than PC.
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Emperor	Jun 12 2009, 06:38 PM Post #3
Member Posts: 62 Group: Member Member #26 Joined: Jun 9 2009	Well if you're never going to buy it in the first place who really cares? They lose no sale if someone like myself downloads a game. If it's REALLY good I'd probably try to go buy it eventually. Even then, I'd rather get around to "eventually" buying all the music I love that I downloaded. That I NEVER would have discovered in the first place without pirating it and finding similar artists all through piracy. Meaning, I'd have fewer purchased CDs now than if I'd never pirated music. What I couldn't really say I APPROVE of (though I'd honestly do it if I had the market) is pirating of music/movies/games, then selling the product for yourself. THAT is a crime, it isn't yours to profit off of. Profiting off of another persons work isn't cool. Appreciating it cost free on the other hand when you have no money, is fine.... My opinion anyway. edit: when I read this a few weeks I loved it it's from this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust,_Inc. Quote: On the original version on tape, Side A contained all 8 songs, with Side B being left intentionally blank. Printed on Side B was the explanation, "Home taping is killing record industry profits! We left this side blank so you can help" Gotta love The Dead Kennedys Edited by Emperor, Jun 12 2009, 06:48 PM.
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ChaoSXDemon	Jun 13 2009, 05:42 PM Post #4
Senior Member Posts: 187 Group: Member Member #33 Joined: Jun 10 2009	Well, I suppose that's fair argument. I agree that it is hard to keep ourselves in place by going back and actually buy the game. I just feel it is not exactly right to say "piracy is bad". It can provide a very nice platform for "ads" for the game. There are, however, attempts that the developers from various places try to anti-piracy: Spore and its SecureROM with online 3 times activation only. What happened? Spore was released BEFORE its actual release date and is spread online with BT. Bioshock also tried the online activations which only brought heated debates and complaints. As a result, it was removed and extended. I forgot the exact changes, but they are pretty close alone the line of those. The main reason that piracy is still around despite many attempts to minimize its effect is because developers cannot assume everyone has The Internet and FORCE everyone to go online every time him/her plays the game. So an "offline" mode must be included. For as long as that exists, there is ALWAYS a way to "crack" it.
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the doom freak	Jun 14 2009, 09:32 AM Post #5
Member Posts: 82 Group: Member Member #20 Joined: Jun 9 2009	I would say I agree, but you guys already gave my reasons, so...yeah.
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Ragana	Jun 14 2009, 12:22 PM Post #6
4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 1,239 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Oct 16 2008	Piracy is obviously bad, you have to be fucking braindead to think otherwise. In a perfect world, everyone would pay for the games that developers worked hard on and everyone would be happy. Obviously this is not the case and we can't expect that. The best anti-piracy ward as of now is multiplayer gameplay. You can uTorrent the game and whatnot, but if you want to enjoy it online with your friends, you got to buy the retail copy of it. Is piracy a problem? Of course, but not big enough for the government to take real action against. As long as huge corporations such as EA keep making billions, piracy will run rampant. ~Tomas Edited by Ragana, Jun 14 2009, 12:25 PM.
	"A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you- stand, Men of the West! "


ChaoSXDemon	Jun 14 2009, 03:46 PM Post #7
Senior Member Posts: 187 Group: Member Member #33 Joined: Jun 10 2009	I would argue that because piracy is a huge problem, the government cannot take much action about it. Would really jail say 30% of the population? Even thought the real number remains unknown to me, I'd say till, if the government were to take serious action against illegal download, they would have some serious problem for jail time and jail space!
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Ragana	Jun 14 2009, 03:49 PM Post #8
4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 1,239 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Oct 16 2008	ChaoSXDemon Jun 14 2009, 03:46 PM I would argue that because piracy is a huge problem, the government cannot take much action about it. Would really jail say 30% of the population? Even thought the real number remains unknown to me, I'd say till, if the government were to take serious action against illegal download, they would have some serious problem for jail time and jail space! Who says anything about jail time? Simple monetary fines, restricted bandwidth(both internet blockage and website limitations), confiscation of computers, etc... The possibilities are literally endless. It is not a huge problem, which is why our government is not doing much about it. Yeah, the companies are pissed about losing money, but the fact is that the gaming industry is making huge leaps each year and regardless of piracy, profits still being made in large quantities. ~Tomas
	"A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you- stand, Men of the West! "


Emperor	Jun 14 2009, 11:01 PM Post #9
Member Posts: 62 Group: Member Member #26 Joined: Jun 9 2009	You know what I just remembered? About 2 years ago I bought a Pro Tools Mbox 2 LE The Pro Tools software installed fine, never needed to activate that (you just needed the box plugged in for it to work) Buuut the guitar plugin software was impossible to activate, it drove me around in a bunch of circles going from web site to website doing nothing. So what did I do? I fucking cracked a way better plug in that worked like a charm in 5 minutes. That's a pretty damn good reason for piracy as well IMO. Maybe developers should make their product work for consumers Maybe if piracy didn't exist though we wouldn't have to worry about those right? Oh, what a vicious cycle. Not saying piracy is good, but it's convenient when things you BUY don't work.
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Moridin	Jun 15 2009, 05:55 AM Post #10
GFX Artist Posts: 116 Group: GFX Artist Member #6 Joined: Jun 7 2009	Piracy is.......well meh. It definitely isn't the greatest thing for game developers, but I think it really helps the consumers. I think that downloading games to try them out are fine, and if you really like it you buy it. Even pirates are people. If they really like a game, they generally buy the game as they feel the dev's deserve the money.
	~Made by me~


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